I don't always agree with Mr Moore, but I will see this film and buy it when it's available on region 1 DVD. We need to encourage people to make and watch these kind of films.

I agree with Richard.

Moore's skills as a documentarian are kind of overshadowed by his instinct towards outlandishnes stunts--witness the truck driving through the streets, Moore's voice blaring through the loudspeaker. This makes his movies and books and TV shows much more about him than about their ostensible subjects. I've heard, though, that this movie contains comparatively less of that sort of thing.

Of course, I'm biased. I tend to gravitate towards the Errol Morris school of documentary filmmaking, which is exactly the opposite of Moore: the documentarian's voice is almost entirely absent, at least in all of the Morris films I've seen. (Another way to put it is that Morris uses only the subject's words and his images to put a point across; he doesn't inject his own physical presence into the film.)

Argh. "Outlandish stunts," of course; I guess I didn't erase enough of "outlandishness." Or any of it, really.

Michael Moore is a capitalist; just like those he targets for his documentaries. He films what sells. Right now his negative diatribe about President Bush is more about Michael Moore making money and proliferating the left wing agenda than it is to proliferate the truth as he has done in the past. Where is the Moore documentary about the Clinton's escapades in office? Where is his scathing review of their debacle of military command in Somalia that needlessly killed Americans? Where is his documentary about the Pork Barreling habits of SEN Robert Byrd for West Virginia? Byrd is clearly a man who abuses his position to the financial benefit of his state. What about Grey Davis's financial scandal in the rolling blackouts of the West Coast? These blackouts caused the deaths of senior citizens through heat stroke!! Of course, this wouldn't be fitting of Michael (or his wallet) anymore because it turns the cameras on those who pay him. He is glorified paparrazzi in a frivolous baseball cap. From the street dog everyone was scared of to the trained pitbull of the left, Michael clearly has sold his soul.

Michael Moore has gone from being the social conscious of America to being the wallet conscious Hollywood greed freak producing trype films for profit. The hard times that befell him and lended to him greatness in his documentary's gritty realism is left behind in the dirt as Michael went from a Plymouth to a Mercedes.

What we need for producers of documentaries are those with a social conscious and the ability to hold on to their morales and ethics. Sorry Michael, but you have sold out to the buck. Left Wing or Right Wing, the ability to stick to your beliefs is all that matters once you are dead.

Listen Larsen

Just because you want to suck Bush's cock doesn't make him right. Now I understand a Right wing conservative like you with no real education or arguments to defend your beloved President, would have to go destroy and try to defame the character of Michael Moore as a back up plan. Why didn't he make a documentary about Gray Davis? Well because, unlike Bush, the people of California fought back and said "Hey this guy is a jackass who doesn't know shit" and unlike with president Bush, the facts were presented publicly. Why not a documentary about the Clinton Admin? Well, if you knew how or even bothered to read his book "Stupid White Men" or "Downsize This" You would see he does attack the Clinton Administration, quite fiercely I might add. Unfortunatly most of Clinton's actions were overlooked with his affair and impeachment proceedings.

The reason he is fighting against Bush is because Commander in Chief there is a God damned idiot and a threat to the whole fucking world.

Ok, so he makes money from his films. WELL DUH! But that is not why he makes the films, he doesn't do it purely for money. You shouldn't let the fact that you get paid less make you jealous. Is envy not a mortal sin? Steven Spielberg made a movie about World War 2, I dunno if you'd heard of it it was called Saving Private Ryan. Let's blame him or Jerry Brukheimer with Pearl Harbour from profiting from tragedy.

You are just afraid of what you don't understand

To Tarnatino Fan:
While I agree with much of what you have said, you should know that the way in which you opened your statement is no way to get your point across. It will only serve as fodder for "Larson' and others who believe in the same.
Perhaps you should've stated that while Mr. Moore freely admits that he keeps enough money for he and his family to be comfortable (and kept in Fast Foods) that he also puts much of it where his mouth is by supporting organizations that help the people that have been misplaced or unemployed.
You also might have stated that the same cannot be true of the high ranking members of our current administation and their friends. That while Moore hasn't put anyone out of work or started any wars in the name of "God" or "freedom", and continues to help those people with his money, our administation and their friends in the corporate world are getting richer and greedier from the pain they have caused... and using OUR tax dollars to do it with!

To Larsen: As an American citizen, it is your right and your duty, as well as mine, and Mr. Tarantine fans to be aware of what our government is doing, because without knowledge you can't make an informed decision in the voting booth... and as most of us know it's already very hard to pick a candidate that will attempt to do what they say while campaigning and that they are truly looking out for the best interests of our people and our country... the WHOLE country and ALL of the people.
If you believe that it's the right of corporations, American corporations, to make money any way they can, then why do you question Mr. Moore's right to do the same? You simply can't have it both ways.

Oh, and by the way Larsen, Moore and his crew do not work out of, or from, Hollywood. These days he lives and works from a base in Manhaatan, New York city, though I do understand that he's visited there. Something about an Academy Award...? }:-))

I agree. I've seen the movie and it sucks. It is simply more fodder for Hanoi John Kerry's hatchet men.

OK folks... while I am gratified to see people commenting here on my little site, I'm imposing a new rule: any post following this one that simply says the movie sucks, without some kind of coherent analysis of why the author thinks it sucks ("Moore's framing and pacing leaves something to be desired," perhaps, or "This specific detail is inaccurate") will be deleted.

I'm going to leave the previous two posts, since I hadn't imposed this rule yet -- but again, I will delete any further trolling unless it's in an effort to have a discussion.

As David has already stated, saying only that the movie sucked means nothing by itself.
But to those that are saying this, how do you explain the fact that Disney thought it to much against Disney's politics and dangerous to it's own well being to distribute if they weren't trying to have it lost in the archives. In fact, if they had been smart enough, or at least smarter than Michael Moore, they could've bought the movie and all of it's rights, put it in a vault until sometime later when all this would be history.
The fact is, gentlemen, is that Disney is a large, highly conservative corporation with lots of clout in our Federal Government and they didn't want to risk losing it. Boy, if only ole' Walt could see his company now... he'd be spinning in his grave, I'm sure.
Also, how can you explain an award given to Moore, one that hasn't been given out in years and NEVER to a documentary, by the largest and most respected film festival attended by the greater world movie going audience as well as the critics?
Yeah, you're right. This film sucks all right. I'd be willing to bet that neither of you even saw the film because if you had, even if you are Bush supporters, that you would have been moved by something in it.
When Paul O'Neill's book first came out, a fellow conservative I might add, people were posting negative reviews about it on Amazon.com the day BEFORE the book was even released!! Now com'on, are we that stupid to believe that these people got the book a day before it was released, read the whole thing through in less than 24 hours and formed enough of an opinion to write a review? I, for one, will never be THAT gullable. At least you should SEE the film before writing these stupid (yeah, your word) uninformed critics.

One more thought here: I am not the kind of person that disrepects a conservative opinion if it's well thought out and the person has his/her reasons for feeling that way. I have had many a stimulating conversation with someone that's had opinions other than my own and continue to. But the "sheep" of the world, those that follow because they have been told to and are too lazy to get their own facts and form their own opinions, these are the people scare me to death... and it's all too common, especially in the United States.

I found Christopher Hitchens article on the movie to be very helpful. It can be found at slate.msn

jm

Just downloaded F911 from BitTorrent (don’t worry, Michael Moore approves downloading the film) and I have to say it is entertaining and at times hilarious. Michael Moore is a great film maker, and he probably deserves his Palme d'Or for his past work. (I think Roger & Me is an absolute work of art). But F911 is no documentary. I work in the intelligence field and I consider myself somewhat familiar with the issues surrounding 9/11 and our invasion of Iraq. Yet while watching this film I was amazed at how many things he either grossly misconstrued or just plain got wrong. In fact, I don't think Moore got a single "fact" completely right. Here are just a few of the obvious examples of that came to mind while I was watching the movie:
1. Moore maintains that the invasion of Afghanistan was a plot to help the Unocal company get a contract to build a pipeline. Please...Unocal gave up it's planned construction of a pipeline in Afghanistan in 1998...three years before the US invasion.
2. There’s no evidence directly linking the Bush and bin Laden families. Even if there were, so what? The bin Laden construction company is a legitimate Saudi construction company and has never been linked to terrorism. The Clinton DOD even hired them to build what was in the late 90’s our largest Middle East military base, Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh, SA.
3. The whole Carlyle Group connection and the $1.4 billion figure Moore cites at several points in the film is grossly overstated. Democrats are just as involved in Carlyle as the Republicans and most of the figure actually went to the company long before George Bush joined Carlyle.
4. Bush had nothing to do with authorizing flights out of the US for members of the Saudi royal family and the bin Laden family. Those flights were approved by the former counter-terrorism czar (and well-known Bush detractor) Richard Clarke.
I won’t even get into the many minor falsehoods depicted in the movie (like the now disproved AWOL charge). I’m not sure what accounts for Moore’s venom, other than he may feel some sense of guilt about his unintentionally helping to elect George Bush in 2000 by his support of Ralph Nader. I highly recommend you see the film for yourself. It’s great cinematic art…but definitely not history.

Yes, I read the Christopher Hitchens article as well. It just seemed to me more a difference in perspective rather than offering solid facts that directly contradict the film. I didn't take from the film that Moore was trying to draw a direct link to Bush and the bin Laden family, other than their mutual connection in the corp. But there was a lot of information flying fast and furious. The main thing I took from the film was the Bush administration tried to imply a link between al-quada and Suddam Hussein but offered no solid proof, how Halliburten is profiting, and he reiterated facts laid out in the film Unprecedented about how Bush stole the presidential election in the first place. I'm still waiting for the Republicans to offer any concrete proof that those claims are bogus. I think I'll be waiting a long, long time.

Of course he's trying to make a direct (and sinister) connection between the bin Laden family and Bush. Otherwise, why even bring it up?
I think the "Bush stole the election" scenario has already been refuted by the Republicans (and the press, and the Florida Voter Commission). I mean they recounted the votes there how many times now? I can't understand why Moore even brought up that tired canard of the Left.
I'm sure Halliburton, through their Brown and Root subsidiary, is profiting and probably profiteering. It's not right, but I've learned through experience that that is how most defense contractors operate.
No question but there were definite links between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaida going back as far as the early 90's. The few documents that have just come to light proving this connection are just the tip of the ice-berg.

I applaud Michael Moore for making a movie that says what a lot of Americans are thinking. Many knew from the get go that the war in Iraq seemed all to familiar to Daddys Gulf War. Bush is a war president who has never run this country for the people. I know this from working in social services and dealing with all the cuts to programs benefiting this countries needy as well as our childrens schools. It's a shame many are so closed minded as to just refuse to see Farenheit 9/11. It is a well put together movie that portrays the self centered big business government we all live under. As well as gives respect to all the poor american soldiers fighting a war for bush, by bush and benefiting bush. And sypathizing for the innocent women, men, and children of Iraq. Our nation, sadly enough has been built on the exploitation of poor nations and the masacre of innocent people. After all if the pilgrims hadn't masacred the Natives of America, where would this country be? It may still contain ample resources and wildlife, lack horrible pollution and disease, and contain a population of people that respect life and one another.

i can't believe some of you don't see the truth. Michael has balls and puts it in film. He's not a sell out. he knows what to say and how to say it. If you don't like it watch Disney's pocahontas and keep living in Limbo trying to justify an idiot coke head running business this way. Do some reading and do the homework to know the truth. Start with Reading National Geographic and try to fit in Lies my teacher told me.

Thanks Beto for your helpful insight. Calling the President an "idiot coke head" clears things right up for me. Also, thank you for the recommended reading as well. I've done the research and even took the extra step of visiting Iraq and Afghanistan (although I confess I did that much earlier). Here are my findings in a nutshell: We've done a good thing by getting rid of Saddam and the Taliban, and the Iraqi and Afghan peoples are grateful for it. Our troops and civilian employees are hard at work in both countries building roads, schools, and hospitals and repairing damage caused by the war but even more so by decades of neglect and corruption. Oh, I almost forgot, we're there at the request of both countries' sovereign governments. I agree with lisa that F911 is a well put together film, but it’s fiction. Moore's explanation of America's participation in the war on terror is cartoonish and grotesque. It features Bush and the US in the role of international outlaw, invading multiple countries to secure oil rights for large American corporations. Give me a break. The undeniable fact is that now, thanks to President Bush and the US military, 50 million people no longer live under oppressive dictatorships. Another undeniable fact (no matter what the Pilgrims did) is that the US is most humane democracy that has ever existed. WE ARE NOT THE BAD GUYS. We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for the best of reasons, asking nothing in return except they establish democracies and become productive and peaceful members of the community of nations. And, by the way lisa, I can say with certainty that the "poor soldiers" you mention support their Commander-in-Chief wholeheartedly.

Just a thought...if this whole movie is built upon lies as many are claiming... wouldn't there be lawsuits flowing in against Moore?

RS stated "..the US is most humane democracy that has ever existed". Now I cannot give evidence to the contrary as I have not researched it but what I can say is: Though we MAY be the "most humane democracy that has ever existed" it does not make us entirely humane - case in point the prison abuses and absolute embarassment of all American soldiers for the outrageous actions of what I hope to be only a few...I said what I hope. I don't want to live in simply the "most humane democracy that has ever existed"...I want to live in a humane democracy.....and I don't believe that I do. Depending on who's land you stand - you just might see US as the bad guy....I think I remember seeing a few mothers in the film that were devestated that the US killed their children (on both sides of the borders)....I can tell you that if it happened to mine...whomever was responsible for whatever reason...I would see them as the bad guy...the enemy. I love my country...or rather I love the potential my country has to do good....I just don't like that we are not living up to that potential right now....Show Bush the Door in 2004!

Beto - you just keep calling it like you see it - the truth might hurt but it must be told. RS the soldiers and civilians (we) are not the bad guys at all - soldiers are good people doing their job as they are told...the shrub and those who have made him President...they are the bad guys because they lie to line the pockets of the wealthy with the lives of the poor - here and abroad. I believe we saw in the movie "...bad for people but good for business"...to me this sums up the shrub regime.

RS (?republican senator?)- I think you might see some American soldiers in the film that disagree with your statement "And, by the way lisa, I can say with certainty that the "poor soldiers" you mention support their Commander-in-Chief wholeheartedly." Unless you are saying that these were not real soldiers...or somehow Mr. Moore must have dubbed over their voices and digitally manipulated the movement of their lips....not all soldiers support this war - and yet like good soldiers they are following orders and putting their lives on the line. I know this for a fact...as I know one soldier that did not. And it only takes one to render your statement false.

I guess I must clarify "poor Soldier" . I mean Poor soldiers who must be convinced that the war they are fighting is for the people of america. Isn't that who they are suppose to be protecting from the unfounded nuclear threat? Isn't Osama the real threat?! Well, I for one am an american who opposes war and the loss of young lives for the benefit of big business. escecially without the support of the UN! Go France for holding your own and not buying into Bushs' b.s. Many of the soldiers that were interviewed were young men, hyped up (brainwashed) by our goverment to believe they are fighting for the people. But don't you recall the one soldier whose family recieved a letter prior to his death stating he disagreed with Bush. Or the soldier who stated he would not return to Iraq and fight a war against poor people, for a cause he didn't believe in! More power to his independent thinking. Many soldiers are brainwashed just as many of you are into thinking Bush is working for the people! Yes, poor soldiers, who must loose their lives for the good ol' american dollar. And how much publicity is given to the soldiers who have commited suicide! Yes, poor soldiers! And once again we send off an army of young people who use the military as a way out of poverty, and to achieve higher education. Sent off to fight for the white capitalist benefit. Believe me I sympathize for the soldiers plight and I pray that all the young men and women fighting in Iraq return safely! And I pray for the families who lost their sons, fathers, sisters, brothers....

Do you people live in Bizzarro World? Do you honestly think that the Iraqis would have been better off under Saddam Hussein? Why didn't Moore interview any of the families of Iraqis murdered during the Saddam regime? Considering there were hundreds of thousands of them, one would would think he could find someone to talk about it. The humiliation of a few dozen POWs by American soldiers pales in comparison to what went on there prior to Iraq's liberation. Under the Saddam regime, over 4000 prisoners were summarily executed at Abu Ghraib. This doesn't include those who died while having their eyes guouged out or being dismembered with blow torches. Let me say this again: 50 million people now live free who didn't prior to Sep 11, 2001 thanks to us...the good guys. Freedom is not free. And BTW Lisa, we did have the support of the UN (see UN resolution 1441).

I do believe that we live in a strange world indeed but I think that I'm fairly well grounded in reality. I'm not saying that the world was better off with Saddam in power (don't put words in my mouth) nor do I believe it is better off now. The problem is that we were sold a war and I question why we were manipulated..and the way we are still being manipulated...what was the real reason? I don't buy that it was WMD or terror threats...or to free the people of Iraq...though you can type it until your fingers fall off....I think the agenda was in place long before....the shrub even said prior to 9/11 that we needed to get in there and do something...If we are worried about governments killing their people then why aren't we fighting a war in any number of countries in Africa? I think we need to worry about our gov't killing our people and setting the stage for more hatred and violence for our children and their children. And I don't care that "only a few dozen POWs" were mistreated - NOT ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MISTREATED - I think if we are going to wage a war on moral high ground than we best be moral. One civilian dead - is too many...one soldier dead - is too many...and the problem that I have most of all is for what - not for moral reasons but another M word...I don't believe it was to free the people of Iraq...I believe it was for OIL and MONEY. Again...lining the pockets of the wealthy with the lives of the poor. And the worst part is - we could kick our oil addiction (maybe with a step-like patch program) with technologies far superior and they would be more cost effective if we paid the real and full price of oil....factor in the lives lost and the environmental damage and imagine the sticker shock....but we don't see that because a few too many of the "haves and have mores" would loose in that deal...and we can't have that now can we?! FREEDOM IS NOT OIL and OIL ain't CHEAP but it is NOT WORTH the lives of even one soldier or civilian! Do you live in Bizzaro World where it is somehow okay to send ours to die? Are you not distrubed by the mistreatment of humans regardless of where they are from and what they believe?

OK I promise I won't type that much this time. I'll just give you a few little known facts. You're right, there was an agenda in place prior to 9/11. In fact, freeing Iraq from oppression has been a US objective since 1998 when Bill Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act. Furthermore, Hanoi John Kerry supported invading Iraq and has no intention of pulling our troops out should he become president. In fact he's suggested he'll probably increase the number of forces over there (and maybe get a few from NATO). Hanoi John agreed we should interveen in Iraq, so did the UN (resolution 1441), and so did Bill Clinton. Abu Ghraib is dead. No one but you and a few other "blame America first" people actually believe there is any moral equivalency between what a few of our soldiers did and the crimes against humanity perpetrated by Saddam.

You assume quite a bit RS - I'm not saying that I'm pro - Kerry either. Yet you attack him and for what reason - fine state your opinion about Kerry but this isn't about Kerry it is about shrub and his people. I am simply anti-shrub and all the people that worked against the masses of this country to gain power in politics and money. I don't care that only a few people have a problem with Abu Ghraib - I do and I'd like to know where you get your facts "no one but you and a few" - have you polled the country and investigated the error in your poll? How do you know how many have a problem with it - or are you guessing simply because it is another item we do not talk about? And never assume I "blame America first" - No the people running our gov't do not represent America - so I'm more along the lines of blame the shrub admin first - for lying. I believe that several administrations are to blame for what led up to 9/11 and the war in Iraq...not just shrub. Do you wonder why we are so hell bent to free Iraq when there are othes are also killing their people - but we haven't paid attention - Ruwanda??? Sudan??? Why Iraq? Why do need to free them first? I think it is because of the natural resources there. You think it is because of the people....I disagree. No don't blame America first - blame the liars who stole and election and claim to represent the masses when they represent only a small few - the haves and have mores. And what will Kerry even be able to do if he does win....the winner of the election has their hands tied behind their back no matter what - because this war was waged in the first place. Yes now that we have destroyed the country it is our responsiblity to rebuild. I simply disagree with the real reasons for taking it to that extreme in the first place. Don't attack me as anti-American - THAT I AM NOT. As I said before I love my country - I love the diversity of this country. I love that we can have this debate about our views and neither one of us has to worry about death as a result - though maybe I need to fear the FBI coming to my door. I don't love the government and politicians...I think that their priorities are more than slightly skewed in favor of money for the rich and sraps for the poor. Maybe you feel it has to be that way - but I love that I can stand up and say that I don't believe that is true - I think that there are better ways...there must be better ways.

RS sounds like the typical scared Retardican who will always look elsewhere to blame and slander, yet never look at his (or her) own affiliation.

Just a few things I'd like to comment on

RS said, "The undeniable fact is that now, thanks to President Bush and the US military, 50 million people no longer live under oppressive dictatorships"

This is the stereotypical brainwashed response Baby Bush wants you regurgitating. Notice how you mention nothing of WMD (the primary reason given to us for going to war) or "imminent threats" - but now you have had your attention shifted by others to preach "oppressive dicatorship". I laugh at this. I laugh at how easily manipulated you are and how weak minded you must be. If you are now so concerned about liberating people who live under oppression - shouldn't you be more concerned about Sudan or other countless African nations? Oh wait, I forgot, Baby Bush could care less about those people, therefore you could care less.

I'm impressed with your inability to think for yourself.

OK, guys... flattered as I am that this debate continues on my site -- let's not be calling names, please. Keep it civil.

the second RS line I'd like to touch upon:

RS said, "the US is most humane democracy that has ever existed. WE ARE NOT THE BAD GUYS."

are you kidding me? Are you really this short-sighted? I see you lack the ability to see ourselves from other perspectives and rather stay within your cozy haven of never seeing us casted in bad light.

Most humane? So consuming over 25% of the world's resources and contributing to countless nations' environmental degredation on behalf of our consumption is "good"? You can't be serious. We have 13 year old girls making our sneakers getting paid less than a dollar a day for their wages. Meanwhile, we're polluting their air, their water and culture while the shoes are shipped back to our 13 year old children to wear.

And meanwhile the world is STILL waiting for us to sign the Kyoto Treaty... let me guess, our hesitance (due to a potential major blow to our economy) is a "good thing"

Please don't be so short-sighted if you are going to call other people strange because we don't gobble up the spoon-fed rhetoric as voraciously as you.

the last comment of RS I'd like to retort:

RS said, "Do you people live in Bizzarro World? Do you honestly think that the Iraqis would have been better off under Saddam Hussein?"

Do you honestly think that the Iraqi people's well-being was Baby Bush's focus? Remember, that was the third, and most desperate, argument given to us for reasons to go to (and justify) the war.

Reason 1: go after OBL in Afghanistan... well that became SNAFU

Reason 2: WMD... don't think I need to comment on this

Reason 3: "ummm, er... the Iraqi people need us!"

please - again, try viewing this situation without the rose colored lenses on.

And now getting back to your assessment that Michael Moore didn't even get a single fact correct in his movie...

...are you going to deny all the connections between Baby Bush's cohorts, business partners and Saudi Arabia? You can't deny that, that's all fact. Now take those connections, forget about what Moore perceives them as, and FORMULATE YOUR OWN assessments and tell me you can't see the fact this is all about money and taking care of his "people"... and let me tell you something, those "people" isn't the American Public.

Posted by: Finally_The_Truth

I loved this movie....

Some of the movie was Moore’s opinions, but for the most part I think he let the film speak for itself. I also found it to be very patriotic. I don't think Moore is un-American. I think that anyone who says that is stereotyping who Americans are. Race, religion, family values and the fact that we are all individuals, unique and timeless makes us who we are today. Since when did Americans start thinking that this is exactly who "we are" and what "we stand for". If that were the case then we wouldn't need an election. We would all share the same views, Therefore being the "All-American people" that we are, we would vote the same way.

I think for once the public got to witness another side of a so far one sided story. There is not one fact in that movie that I can find to be false. I've been sitting in front of my TV. Screen (here and there) for the past 4 years looking on in disgust. I was thrilled that finally someone had enough guts to say and answer most of my "what abouts?"

I THINK THE WAR WAS UNNECESSARY!

Moore’s movie or not I agreed with his opinions long before he stated them.
I hate the fact that bush is dishonest, unapologetic, war happy, and he's a "Christian?" Please! It makes me sick.

Through this entire war I have been more concerned about Iraq and their families. This war did not have the information it needed to go any further then paper work.

This is coming from a Canadian who is damn proud of her country for not getting involved in such an indecent act of human history that will not be forgotten.

Kim age:20 B.C. Canada

Forgotten Wisdom

Must you see in color?
blinded by your creed
In my image I created man
Life I gave to thee

You shout my name at night
Curse my people in your days
I'm the painter of such colors
Your ignorance I save

Your borders mark my land
Separating brotherhood
I mend the scars of yesterday’s wars
Too love; I wish you would

A little bit of wisdom
The country of your birth
Is not a man made dream
It’s a little place called earth

I am the alpha; the omega
Take heed in what you do
For after life is paradise
All this I give to you

Hate is not the answer
Love is best when it is shown
This is a small reminder
Of what you’ve always known

If Bush wanted to free people from the oppressor why didn't he invade CHINA ?
It's the last largest hardline communist regime in the world which kills people by the thousand every year with the old bullet in the neck routine, torture tibetans in its jails, and it's got plenty of nukes and WMD in store, they can even play Star Wars now if they want to.

But hey, wait! they're also our best business partner !(along with our Saudi friends of course, who by the way enjoy chopping heads off in public too).
They've got a fourth of the world population ready to queue at Chinese Mc Donalds', while US companies can manufactures goods there for peanuts. American workers can't live on peanuts, but Chinese can...so let's move Nike overseas!
(http://www.saigon.com/~nike/nike-china.htm) then sell everything back to americans (don't we love that exotic feeling reading of "made in China" on most of our household items?).
Besides there's no oil for us there anyway and they're a good billion people who unlike Iraki women and children can do kung fu !!!
Uh... Let's free Iraq boys.....

screw Michael moore and kerry. they both are liars, and Moore is nothing but a fatassed loser porpagandist. kill them all!

Hey guys. RS here making one last stop at noise-to-signal to chat with you left wing loonies. Ahh, sweet victory. Thank God the normal people prevailed and we won't have another hippie in the White House. I gotta hand it to you bed wetting Leftists though, it was close. I can't even imagine how much you guys spent on handing out cigarettes and crack to street people to get them to the poles. Thought I'd check back in and offer some advice for next time: First, try to get a real war hero to run. A guy with four months of questionable combat time and a bunch of fake medals is doomed. Also, with moral values playing such a role this time, try to get some big name supporters who have some. People like Whoopie "Heart and Soul of America" Goldberg, Michael "Sodomizer" Stipe, and P "Vote or I'll bust a cap in yo' ass" Diddy just scare normal people. Anyway, that's all I can think of right now. See you in four years. Iran here we come! Hanoi John has left the building.

Farenheit 9/11 did exactly as it was supposed to do. Make Michael Moore some money, whip the far left into an Anti-Bush frenzy then detract from Kerry's failings as a presidential candidate. Not only were we able to elect the President to another 4 successful years, we also booted Tom Daschle for good measure. Listen up if you think America wants the far left agenda.

You are wrong. Those of us who voted for Bush want compassion in the judicial system without legislation mandated by activist judges, care of the infirm without a financially draining national health care plan, the ability to be legally successful without penalty, Social Security Reform and empathy for the under- and un-employed with a demonstrable training program for self improvement and the personal responsibility to feed your self and your family no matter where you have to work to do it.

Please don't lecture me about outsourcing; it is an economic fact of life. If your employees demand more and more without contributing a like amount back into the company's productivity, then you have two choices. Close the business or take it where it will be profitable.

We also want personal responsibility for your actions. A fair and equitable tax system that doesn't impugn the wealthy. Since when it is a crime to be wealthy? The far left doesn't have a problem with George Soros and they really need to do a background check on this guy. He's conducted more shady deals than a thrice convicted used car dealer.

Kerry never admitted any responsibility for his actions at any point. Character is a cornerstone of someone who had served admirably in the military; Kerry was and is lacking in character.

If the Dems really want the support of America; and you can look at the map to see it isn't there, then you need to look at the Democrat Party under FDR. He understood the people and their needs IN GENERAL, not as a component of some great political agenda. Learn this trait and you will find success.

Four more years. Life is good.